CHRISTIE HAYES

CHRISTIE HAYES DAILY | Thursday August 6, 2026

Pulp & Crunchy Season 1 Episode 4

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Today we're recording from Lutra Witter. I pay my respects to elders, past and present, and I acknowledge that sovereignty was never ceded. I am of the Beer Pai people, and I'm proud to use my voice to honor the strength, stories, and resilience of my ancestors, whose culture has continued for more than 65,000 years, because it always was and always will be Aboriginal land.

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It's Christy Bitch.

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She's the former home and away star who shone in Summer Babe for more than 500 episodes. But after her time by the beach came to an end, Christy Hayes found another passion behind the mic.

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Prime Minister, what does your government feel about that? Will we see this Royal Commission?

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There's calls for Royal Commission about everything.

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Well, I think deaths of women are pretty paramount.

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What does a Royal Commission do besides fund lawyers?

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Bless Happy Justin. But he brought home something yesterday, and it's those beautiful iced vulvas, you know, the beautiful whisky. Ice provo.

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It is the world that I see the way he is so different. And I think that the world needs to be more patient with people that live with autism. Any parent out there knows what it's like to have an autistic child. There are wonderful days, but there's also really hard days.

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It's Christine Bitch. Hi G'day Groovers, how are we feeling? How are you feeling, hubby Justin?

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I'm great. I'm good.

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Good, good. Um, this is an episode today. We're going to talk about something pretty big that's been in the media. I want to just let you know it's going to be um a trigger warning. 1-800 respect is available for you. If you need immediate support or if you've been affected by sexual violence, please know that there is help out there. I mean, I believe that that hotline is very powerful because it can make a difference. But having said that, it's not lost on me. We have so much further to go in this space. Um, but the conversation needs to happen. Now, this came out on Monday. I had been following this, uh, I don't like to use the word story, but I had been following this case for quite a couple of weeks ago now. I follow Sherelle Moody. I recommend everyone follow her, Sherelle Moody at Femicide Watch. She keeps a live track throughout Australia of women and children that are killed or have horrific circumstances happen to them in terms of sexual violence. Um, she posted a couple of weeks ago that a high-profile man in the entertainment industry, uh, and also use the word businessman, had been found guilty of rape. Had been found guilty of rape, but had a suppression order. Therefore, the media and various outlets, every single outlet, including her own at that time, couldn't publish his name. Um, people were starting to weigh in on comments and guess and stuff like that. But long story short, we found out the the name of this perpetrator. Um, and it was you actually when you found out his name, because I'd been following this story, but I think you had a bit of a moment.

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Yeah, I had because I hadn't followed anything. I I didn't know, and it sort of just caught me off guard.

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I put two and two together, and you said up in our kitchen it was, you went Ralph Carr has been found guilty of rape. Yeah. So I didn't know that name, admittedly. I didn't know the name whatsoever. But as soon as you said to me, Oh, the Melbourne man who has been found guilty of rape, I went, Oh, he's the guy in the entertainment industry and the business world. He's the guy that had his privacy, which I friggin' hate. He got to have privacy and not have his name go throughout the court process so as to not, you know, d disturb him. Um, meanwhile, obviously his victim has a whole life of horror ahead of her. Uh, we'll come back to that shortly. But you knew the name.

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I knew the name, but well, I knew the name more than anything being uh a Richmond supporter and the fact that uh Ralph Carr was Dustin Martin's manager.

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Um Dustin Martin, sorry to jump in, but I just want to clarify, he released a statement on Monday um saying, Oh my god, uh, you know, I have severed ties, this is horrible, have nothing to do with him, uh, thinking of the victim and her family at this horrific time, and which I obviously was the right thing to do, but um you know, just just saying that because no one's pointing any fingers at at Dusty, you know, or anything like that.

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He you know, he's his manager. And look, the thing is with and and you see, and I I read the story, and even the people that went in as his character witnesses and things like that coming out and saying, Well, you know, that's the thing, is that you can be blindsided by this, you know. Like I that's what I'm saying with uh with Dustin Martin, uh, for instance, and even Tina Arena for that for that fact, you know, who he sh you know was married to Ralph Carr. He was uh her uh her manager and then they got married.

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I had no idea about that anymore until I saw that.

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So no one's pointing any fingers to say that they the people like that were actually in the know. Like I think they uh they were very much blindsided by by this as well. But what a what an horrific story. And and and in this day and age where um we're just hearing more and more and more of this and and and just the safety of women in you know i in the company of men who they trust. This is a this is a woman who worked for Ralph Carr. They were having a meeting at his house, um they were using drugs, they were drinking.

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Which doesn't make sense. No, that no, no, no, no.

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I'm not I'm just contextualizing what you know the scenario in this. This is not uh you know, so she was led into a into an environment where she believed that she was safe.

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And probably I don't use the phrase uh easily led, that's not what I'm trying to say when I'm saying felt comfortable in you know in his home, but um and obviously a lot younger. So, you know, when you talk about decades, he's just yeah, so she's sitting there and she's probably offered a drink as she politely accepts, and you know, the recreational fun ensues. And then that happens, right? And this happened in 2023, yeah, by the way. This is how long it's taken her to get this. Well, I won't even say justice, um, but not even finality yet, because the sentencing component hasn't happened yet. Um, but you're right, you know, this is a position of imbalance, and actually in our private life, you talk about importance of balance quite often, how balance is very important in in in just in life in general.

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So whether it's employment, whether it's in a relationship, whether it's in uh you know, friendships and that. I've always said the simple way of doing it, you shouldn't need someone more than they need you, or vice versa. Um, because then the balance is out, you know, you need to find that balance. Uh and this obviously uh had a balance against her in this, you know, in this scenario. Um uh it's a horrific situation uh for her to be in, to be blindsided by somebody she obviously trusted.

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Exactly.

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You know, uh that that's you you put yourself in that situation, and this is and and this is the thing, and I will never, ever victim blame in these, you know, in these scenarios ever. You you put yourself in these situations, she should have been safe you know, from that. That's the thing. She shouldn't have had to um go through what she actually went through.

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And I just want to clarify that's what he means when he says she put herself in those situations. What you're saying is she was feeling comfortable to go. Yes, yeah, yeah.

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This is not this is not a hey, this is your fault you put yourself in the situation. This is a fact that she's in a situation where she should feel safe. She's with the person who she works for and works with and works closely with and uh and that you know and i i in a you know in a business and professional relationship, you should be able to go to a meeting at somebody's house and you know and you should be able to walk down the friggin' street.

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You should be able you should be able to do everything. You should be able to do that.

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But unfortunately you can't. No, and and you know, and and this is this is what we're learning more and more now.

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You you know This is also just one of the cases that we are even seeing a conviction with, you know, and that's not only that, but we're and we're also seeing this is because he's a high pro high profile person.

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Oh, yeah, of course.

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So you imagine how many of these cases are happening on a daily basis that we're not seeing because the perpetrator is not a high high profile person. They're still doing the same things.

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And also the people that don't even get believed when they go and report it to the police. I can't tell you the amount of times over the years that people have directly um told me their stories. I've read them, like I'm just talking on Instagram, and this is just me. This is just me, you know, hearing from people who say, This happened to me, or I was raped, I was assaulted, I was beaten up, and no one believes me, or this is what my experience was the police with the police was. Um so this is the the situation when this has even escalated to go to court. And the the audacity, this is what I hate with suppression orders, right?

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And I I it's protecting the perpetrator, not protecting the victim.

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That's right. And and of course it goes without saying, should a victim ever want privacy, you know, you'd like to think that everybody would respect that. But now it now what happens is when someone has enough money to get a suppression on order, because that's what it is, because lawyers, as you and I know, Justin, in our personal life, um, not for anything to do with you and I together, but lawyers are expensive. We've had to go head to head with the most ridiculous situation in in court, right? Which costs us f over $40,000 in legal fees, and that was just something to do with paperwork about things, right? So you imagine uh his uh his journey of trying to keep his name out of the um of the media, and I think now the suppression order, after so many outlets, tried to get it uh get get rid of it. A ABC went head to head on they challenged to be able to print his name in media, and eventually that's why his name is out. I reckon he's just not running out of money, but the the cost as well of trying to protect his own privacy is going to become very expensive. And that makes me happy because he shouldn't just have a get out of jail literal free card because he managed Dustin Martin and managed AFL players and was married to Tina Arena.

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No, exactly right. And you know, he um he had his day in court, he was found guilty. He says he's going to appeal, but at this present moment in time, he is guilty, and therefore he shouldn't have no rights as far as that's concerned.

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That's right. And we can say that, like from a broadcast point of view, how it works, just um for those playing along, you know, there's three components there is identification, there is reputation, and then there is publication. This is nothing that is um untoward what what is being said, nor what could it legally in any way, shape, or form, you know, it alter the outcome. Everybody's talking about it.

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We're also not we're not insinuating anything that we haven't just read in the media that has come out in court. So you know, this is this is this is it. We we're not giving you an opinion on what we think might have happened, we're telling you what has come out in court.

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Exactly. And that's just what's come out in court. You know, can you imagine what is horrifically so much more to it than this? So we just wanted to talk about this. Um we wish we never had to have these conversations, but I think the more that we do, and I I just want to say again, one-800 respect is available. Please call Triple Zero should you need immediate support um for anybody out there because we always talk about the name of the perpetrator.

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Bang the drum, make the noise, don't don't get talked out of reporting these situations.

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Don't get talked out of, you know, it's it's very easy for us to say that we understand because we are in a position of safety. But um, like you just said, you know, people need to be believed more.

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People need to be able to walk into a police station and go, this happened to me, and I need help, and I'm not only And they need to be welcomed by the police in open arms and then supported through the these scenarios.

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Absolutely. I have had a police officer message me directly. She's a woman, she was horrifically abused by her male husband, police officer. And what she has told me and and the process that she went through with anyone even believing her when she was a friggin' police officer, because he was a police officer, like it just it it makes you so angry, it makes you so frustrated, it makes you so excited.

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And this is not pointing the fingers at at police or anything.

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This is basically saying it doesn't matter what scenario it is, but yeah, it as far as well that goes without saying, and that comes oh my gee, you know, you I once literally read a comment from a police officer and I shit you not. You know what he did? A hashtag not all cops. F off. We know that. It goes without saying that it's not every police officer, there's fantastic police officers, there is terrible fan there's there's terrible police officers like that there are with every single profession. But the overall feeling when people need to report a sex crime against them is that there is not enough belief, there is not enough support. I know that even though I've never been sexually assaulted. I've walked into a police station and said, I need help with something that's just happened to me. I didn't even get past the first door. I had the first policeman at the front desk ask me the situation with about four other people behind me in a lineup for them to go and say, Hey, I need police help. And um, I didn't even get to go and sit in a police officer's office and have a proper conversation. And you know what I'm talking about, and we'll elaborate on this story one day. But for now, it's not about that. It's about it's about the victims out there of sex crimes, it's about talking about this more and more, and it's about ridiculous people in positions of power that get things like suppression orders and the justice that has finally happened to get a conviction and also get this suppression order lifted. So just a reminder from us that there is help available. We're always in your corner. Please keep talking about it. And if you need immediate support, please pick up the phone on 1-800 respect. Christy Hayes Daly. So something happened today, Hubby Justin. Oh, okay. And and I said to myself, I actually think we should talk about this too. I recently on Facebook could tell that a few times throughout the course of my day, I could see that a few people, a few women were now single. Um, you know when you're scrolling your Facebook feed, or not that you ever do, because you barely go on Facebook, you're not the right person, but everyone else.

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I would never come to you and say I've just found a whole lot of single women. I wouldn't survive that conversation.

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Okay, okay, I get what you mean. But basically what I mean is I'm scrolling Facebook and there's photos of um, you know, great friends of mine on on Facebook or colleagues, former colleagues, people that you know you just know throughout your course of your life. And one of them said, Oh, you know, I I I love my sons, being a single mum is hard at times, but blah, blah, blah. We're doing great. And I went, Oh, hang on, I thought she was married. I saw her a couple of years ago she literally got married, looked very happy, building the house, blah, blah, blah. Um, so I, you know, you know me, I felt inclined to reach out and send her a message. And I just said, Oh, hey Han, uh just saw your Facebook photo, just want to say I'm really sorry about the breakup. Hope you're okay. And then I stopped and I went, hang on a second. Why am I messaging her saying, I saw now that you're single, I'm really sorry to see it? Because why do we live in this world where if people break up, it's a bad thing? So I overthought it, redrafted it, and then I said, Hey hun, always upbeat. Um, just saw you're now single. I might be, you know, a little bit behind the times with things, so I just saw you single. Hope you're okay if this wasn't what you wanted, or if this was your choice, congratulations. And I'm so glad to see that you're going in the direction that you're choosing, right? XXX Love Christy. And then I went, oh my god, what if she's just been widowed? And then like neither was her choice, but thank God she hadn't been widowed. Yeah. Um, she did get back to me, it was just a divorce. But anyway, the reason I I thought this is a chat was not for you to think come some psycho that just messages people and asks them about their relationship status. But throughout the course of even breakups that I've had, it's always, oh, I'm so sorry to hear, are you okay? And I went, can we just remind everyone? And I know a lot of us have experienced this, particularly the age of our demo. Sometimes a breakup is actually a great thing. And I think saying to someone, hey, congratulations on your divorce, I just feel like it's good, right?

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You're not springing something on me now, are you? Trying to soften the blow.

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I wanted to let you down really gently. That Facebook photo was me and the boys. All right.

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So do you want to just give me the address of all those single women and then you do Yeah, well, you know, you come with a lot of baggage.

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Um, but we do kind of, I just went, I think we might just change this terminology, right? Like, is it a bad thing to say to someone, I'm so glad you're now single. You seem really happy, you know, and I know that a lot of bad relationships happen. And I don't even mean horrific relationships, I just mean shitty relationships. Yeah. Anyway, so update on the friend. She sent me a voice note saying, Oh my god, it's so funny, you got in touch, blah, blah, blah. This happened. Uh, he wasn't the guy I thought he was, happily single, etc. etc. Um, and it just really made me go. I really hate when people kind of pull the wool over someone's eyes because the thing is this, right? And I don't think it's a particularly great divorce. If you can't give someone the marriage that they deserve, then at least give them the divorce that they deserve.

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Yeah.

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Yeah? And no, I'm not asking you for one.

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I just think that there needs to be I was just trying to calculate what is the divorce that you you deserve here.

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Christy Angel.

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Alrighty. Um, before we finish up, I'll I want to talk about something today.

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Um Well, that's good because we're podcasting.

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We are. Um and this is I don't know, I mean, you and I, you know, we have uh an eight and a half month-old little girl who is now um getting into watching TV.

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I know we sound like terrible parents. This is after we have got up.

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A few drinks and we just right now.

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This is after we've done tummy time. This is when she's tired and she just wants to recognise a bit of screen time. Look, look, just three of them, so we have to make it work. I don't think any parent is judging us right now for a bit of screen time.

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We did stop her watching Dexter. Um, look, um what I want to talk about is obviously the wiggles have been a big thing in our house and still are, even with it, with Hendricks, who has autism. Um, you know, so we love the wiggles, but Danny Go is it's something that we're just absolutely addicted to in our house, and she is addicted to it. And I love it because of the music. It's just constant music, and and Danny Coleman, the guy behind this, is uh he basically developed this whole thing to get kids off the couch.

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And the ironic thing is the kids were our kids sit on the couch to watch Danny Go. Um so Danny Go was an American series, and it started it started back in 2019 by a really talented guy called Daniel. I think it was 2019, don't quite meet, but around that time, um, they started in their shed. Uh, when I say they, uh, he, his mates, uh his wife, Mindy, who is a character on the series. Um Mindy Mango. Mindy Mango.

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Um there's Bearhead.

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Bearhead, and it's really, really cool. It's like these guys are cool. Like if you know you're of age and you're at a different type of party, you want to party with these guys, if you know what I mean. Like they're doing cool techno music. Um, they're really talented. But it's number one uh at the moment in Australia on Netflix, and it has been in the kids section for uh a long time now. About six weeks, yeah. Basically since May, and I hadn't heard of this series beforehand, but unfortunately, it's it's number one for a really beautiful and tragic reason.

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Yeah, so um Mindy and Danny uh have two sons, but they lost one uh age 14 to uh to a rare cancer that he'd had for quite some time, and from what I believed, uh you know, he they weren't expecting him to go as long as what he did, but which is even just just horrendous. Um so the world actually rallied behind and watched the show to bring his streams up and to help support uh him and his family and what they were going through. So it is an absolute beautiful reason that they've gone to number one. But watching it if anyone, if you haven't watched this yet, I don't care if you got kids or not, watch some Danny Go. It is absolutely fantastic, it's addictive as far you know, we're quoting it constantly, you know. There's one bit in there where delivery that I'm constantly saying throughout that house when Bearhead does his delivery, delivery, um, you know, and we're singing the songs and we're doing that. Um but that's when the kids are in bed. Yeah, so it's just I don't know. I'm I hope that one day on this podcast that we can get Danny Go on the show.

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Oh my god, tears. Tears, tears, tears. I'd love that. If and when the time comes for him and his wife to even be able to sit down and have a conversation. And I love that the world rallied behind this beautiful family and went, what could we do? What can we do? That's one practical thing you can do. If just say you're a, you know, you like Justin just said, you don't have kids. If you want to do something nice today, which literally will cost you nothing and you're so easy when you get home or wherever you are, just put on Netflix. Yeah, put your Netflix account on and um and and watch Danny go. Like just press play to help get those streams up, especially for you know, in America, where they don't I can't even imagine how much debt they would have had to go through their own family with health care and things like that for their beautiful boy Isaac. Like they don't have things like Medicare and a friggin' health system, you know, unless you're really rich over there. Um, and so when I saw all these videos going around on Instagram, it was um Back in May and a lot of mums, you know, you put a room full of mums together, my god, mums and dads before everyone gets pissed off or the men. That's a joke, guys. Um, you're a dad and you get it, but you know, it is true. Like the parents really rallied together and went, All right, one thing, if you want to do this, everyone made reels, please watch Danny go, please watch Danny go. And it's worked. And our daughter, I don't even know if the mic's picking her up, but goalie is literally with us right now in studio recording this episode.

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And we got Danny Gill on one of the on one of the screens that she's just watching and dancing along to at the moment.

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So but it just puts a big smile on your face. It's educational for the kids. Um the the the deserving talent, you know. Australia has done wonderful things like the Wiggles and Bluey, and my god, we're so proud of the um the exports that we have that have done so well in America. Bluey is very famous in the United States and a lot of other countries, as is the Wiggles. But it's nice to see a kids' TV show here as well from the other side of the world that make a difference, educates the kids, puts a smile on the on the kids and the adults' faces, and something that you can do today, if you can do one thing with your time to really truly make a difference to another family. Put on Danny Go. And can I say that you're gonna love even the first episode? There is a song is lava, the floor is lava, and you're gonna be dancing your ass off like if you know you're in a nightclub or doing something really cool with your floor's a trampoline, bounced, bounced, bounced, bounced.